Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
David Richardson
David -
Yes, I had to go back and take a look again. I thought the $299/yr was just for colorizing. Did not realize that it included subscription to the rest of MyHeritage site. For Susan it would make sense, but agree, just for colorization, too expensive. Just curious if there is a size limit like there is with other sites? Will it allow you to take the really large (for example) Library of Congress files? All of the others that I have seen either fail or resize them smaller. Thanks, David Richardson Civil War in 3D.com Civil War in Color.com
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
David Richardson
Thank you for sharing this. I have been doing colorization's for 10+ years and agree that the personal human touch has not been matched (yet). ;)
I tried the image of Lily Elsie on other AI colorize programs and they all seem to have the same issue. They don't seem to recognize that her dress is one color and that the ribbon around her neck is not a dividing line in the color. I do like the skin tones and some of the other detail work. I think the AI is good to get things started and on complex scenes can help to speed some of the very tedious detail work. One of the things I don't like (at least for what I have seen now) is the size limitation. All of these programs that I have found restrict the size. I often work with images that the original starts out as a 100Mb Tiff file (Library of Congress images) and they fail trying to colorize for being too large, or the system will scale it down. One of the AI's mentioned previously scaled an image that was originally 20Mp to less than 1Mp! You lose all of the detail very frustrating! David Richardson Civil War in 3D.com Civil War in Color.com
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
robert mcafee
Yes you can find a 49mm +5 Kenko Achromatic close up lens for $23.15 including shipping. For me I would pay additional $1.85 tax bringing delivered price to $25. Currently the next cheapest Kenko AC CU lens on eBay is $40 with shipping ($43.20 delivered with tax for me) and I think that one ships from Japan. Other brands of AC close up lenses of similar size can easily cost $100+. For me I noticed much more chromatic aberration with the non-achromat Kenko +10 lens than I observed with achromatic +3, +4 or +5 lenses.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
Ronald Schalekamp <info@...>
The prismatic effect of the closeup lenses was mentioned for a long time by Loreo, with their macro 3d lens:
' Closeup lenses allow the camera to be brought in closer to the subject, and also help correct parallax.' Also, where could i buy this mentioned adapter for the Pana 3d lens? And, someone mentions there are far better quality options for good macro 3D; wich ones would those be? I can thnk of doing the chacha, but thats a hassle and not for moving critters. How does the Lore Macro lens compare to the Pana 3D lens? Greets, Ronald
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
Dan Vint
Could you explain the basic process or point me to some sites for doing this by hand? I've got books on hand coloring real photos, but have not come across a digital explanation. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Depthcam via groups.io" <depthcam@...> Date: 9/15/20 9:04 PM (GMT-08:00) To: main@Photo-3d.groups.io Subject: Re: [Photo-3d] Automatically colourise B&W images using AI I came across auto colorizing online sites a few years ago and the one I had tried at the time was called "colorize-it.com". The results varied. Some were poor while others were excellent. A few months ago, I found deepai.org and found the colorizing on this site was generally much better. However it was not always the case. I did several tests of the same pictures on both sites and something colorize-it got the better result but I would say that Deepai got it best most of the time. The problem with both those sites is their output is low resolution. What I would do if the output was higher resolution would be to use one of those converters and then redo the portions by hand that did not work correctly. But sometimes noether of these sites works at all. Here is an example of an old black & white postcard that AI colorizing just can't get right: Colorize-it version: DEEPAI version: My hand-colored version: Needless to say, a hand colored version can take a few hours. However, sometimes there's nothing like the human touch ! Francois.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 01:26 PM, akdens2 wrote:
1024 is given in case a 16:9 image is desired. The cropping shown in the images I copied is 4:3 and that corresponds to 1824 x 1368. Therefore the width is less than 1920p. The value to remember here is the maximum 1824x1024 when the image is cropped for 16:9. And that is less that the 1080p standard (1920x1080p) > I think you can still extract a 1824x1824 image if you want. As I understand it, when the 1:1 aspect ratio is chosen, the width is further reduced to 1712 x 1712 - possibly so as to avoid any risk of vignetting at the top and bottom edges ?? > Why it decreased from 2048 to 1824 could be side cropping necessities due to various reasons. The point is these values were put up on the net in two places with the same wrong information. Francois
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
I have been colorizing pictures for some years now. I do it "by hand" like in the old days - except the "hand" is a mouse !
I came across auto colorizing online sites a few years ago and the one I had tried at the time was called "colorize-it.com". The results varied. Some were poor while others were excellent. A few months ago, I found deepai.org and found the colorizing on this site was generally much better. However it was not always the case. I did several tests of the same pictures on both sites and something colorize-it got the better result but I would say that Deepai got it best most of the time. The problem with both those sites is their output is low resolution. What I would do if the output was higher resolution would be to use one of those converters and then redo the portions by hand that did not work correctly. But sometimes noether of these sites works at all. Here is an example of an old black & white postcard that AI colorizing just can't get right: Colorize-it version: DEEPAI version: My hand-colored version: Needless to say, a hand colored version can take a few hours. However, sometimes there's nothing like the human touch ! Francois.
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
Hi David,
Yes. MyHeritage would not be worth it just for the colorizing feature. Susan is deep into genealogy and subscribes to MyHeritage and Ancestry.com anyway. As others have already pointed out there are other free sites that seem very similar. I tried https://colourise.sg/ and it seems very similar, at least on a quick test. - David
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Re: RED Hydrogen review
#hydrogen
robert mcafee
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Re: T2 adapter equivalent for mirrorless cameras
#cameras-issues
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robert mcafee
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Re: Facebook's 2d to 3d AI project
robert mcafee
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Re: 3D Vision Monitor
robert mcafee
For anyone interested PC Richardson in NY City area has the Acer XB241H NVIDIA 3D Vision ready (requires emitter) for $299.99 with free shipping. (Shows as on sale for $309 with lower price in cart). Price on Acer's site is $399
For those in Texas or Nebraska or Iowa the Nebraska Furniture Mart has this monitor for $279.99. They had this for a lower price a while ago but they have a limited area to which they are allowed to ship and they could not ship to NY
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
Philip Heggie
This one is free and nearly as good as My Heritage https://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/colorizer
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
Oktay
A reason here could be stereo window adjustment because of inclusion of a near object.
Oktay
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
Oktay
1024 is given in case a 16:9 image is desired.
I think you can still extract a 1824x1824 image if you want. Why it decreased from 2048 to 1824 could be side cropping necessities due to various reasons. Oktay
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Re: Automatically colourise B&W images using AI
Gordon Au
FYI: I haven't tested them thoroughly, but depending on the image, sometimes these free ones work passably well (as long as you don't need a large image):
http://deepai.org/machine-learning-model/colorizer (limited to 800 px?) http://colourise.sg (limited to 1800 px?)
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 08:12 PM, George Themelis wrote:
Hi George, I am a bit puzzled by the low resolution values you list above. Based on what I had found on the internet, with the GX series, 4:3 should be 2048x1536 for GX series cameras as below: The same value shown here: But interestingly, I just checked a sample MPO sent to me that was taken with a GX7 and the resolution is indeed 1824x1024. Kinda disappointed to see it's under 1080p ! I wonder how the posters above ended up with a value of 2048x1536 ? Francois
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
I agree that framing the right image is a problem when you can only see the left. So using a closeup lens to help compensate and keep framing similar between l&r is an attractive option. Linda
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Re: Panasonic Lumix 3d lens with Close-up Lenses vs Spacers Test
timo@guildwood.net
One advantage of using the Lumix 3D lens on a non-Panasonic camera (or taping the contacts) is that you see the whole stereo image on the camera screen, in crossview no less. This lets you better frame the image. With the Panasonic camera, you only see what is on one of the lenses, and this can result in part of your subject being cropped off. You won’t know this until you remove the memory card and put the MPO on a separate device.
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Re: 3D Macro & Panasonic FT-012 3D lens
Oktay
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