Re: New 3D lens announced

John Clement

Of course they had effective toe in.  It is obvious from the images.  What you said is exactly the same as what I said in my second sentence.  Technically the lenses were closer together than the film gates, because the gate spacing was dictated by the frames spacing.


If you wish to say this is not toe in, fine.  It achieves the same effect.  This has the problem that the focus is somewhat worse for the outside edges of the 2 frames.  So even the 1940-1950’s cameras did not take perfect pictures, but they were still very good.  I have a Realist, Revere, and Colorist II all of which have the window set at 7 ft, so I assume the other Realist format cameras were the same.  Actually the format on the film was used by Tru-Vue in the early ‘30s long before the Realist camera was created.  As to who invented that format, I have seen no claims.


John M. Clement


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On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 03:15 PM, John Clement wrote:


>>The old 3D cameras of the 1950s all had a little toe in which effectively set the window at 7 ft.  This could be done by having the lens slightly toward the center with respect to the film frame.  The Civil War era cameras were parallel and captured extra detail on the R in the R lens, while the more modern cameras capture extra detail to the L behind the “7 ft window” with the R lens.  This problem will also happen with a dual camera system unless you toe them in slightly.  It can be solved by judicious cropping, which is what the Civil War era photographers did when creating the 3D cards.<<

I don't think the old 3D cameras of the 1950's had any toe in.

The center of the film gate was slightly off set outside compared to the center of the lens , but the lens and film plane were parallel to each other. 
This way both left and left edges were overlapping at the stereo window.
This of course is not possible with the two body twin digital stereo systems.




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